SCW 17 Top Five End of Season Tournament

[Newbport]

Sweet, glad that you agree.

I was also considering lowering the number of games by a factor of 2.

Ex. quarter finals as a bo5, semi finals a bo7 and the finals as a bo9.

We'll see how the community feels.

[tonyG]

I was also considering lowering the number of games by a factor of 2.

Ex. quarter finals as a bo5, semi finals a bo7 and the finals as a bo9.

I think that's a good call.

[Purifier]

According to poll, multiple accounts should not be included

[Simba]

agreed, if you want a more diverse tournament multiple accounts should not be allowed. The argument that multiple accounts brings activity is kind of overused. For example, the player could play just as many games on their one account. If you want a more competitive tournament, make it one account per person.
It's like saying, "lets put Flash into two brackets into ASL because he plays more than others." Not much justification

[Think-Fast]

I think people would be more inclined to allow multiple accounts if they were under the same forum name instead of smurfing

[TealSilverSteal]

Cole will cut his wrist if you do that, HAHAHA!

[Newbport]

I agree, having multiple accounts in the top 10 should not be allowed.

The main problem I see is getting people to come out and admit which accounts are theirs.

For example it is speculated that Jose is Rillo and Mandingo is Makumba.

If there was concrete solid evidence that this was true or they came out and admitted it I would allow only one account in the tournament.

I just don't see a way of obtaining concrete evidence of users having multiple accounts.

[insaNe]

agreed, if you want a more diverse tournament multiple accounts should not be allowed. The argument that multiple accounts brings activity is kind of overused. For example, the player could play just as many games on their one account. If you want a more competitive tournament, make it one account per person.
It's like saying, "lets put Flash into two brackets into ASL because he plays more than others." Not much justification

ASL is an invitational tournament, and SCW is a league. The tournament that Newbport is putting on is based off of the results of the SCW League, not an invitational of the best players. It's not a reasonable comparison.

And as for playing just as many games on their one account, it gets to a point where you need to have a secondary account or you'll be in A vs C- & B vs D situations a lot of the time. It's not conducive to the success of the higher ranking player to accept this challenge, and why should it be?

The notion that the argument is overused is a baseless claim and can be discarded.

So at this point the only points are that you want to see more players regardless of the fact they didn't earn a top 10 spot, and that somehow having B players vs S players is going to create more competition. Not sure it adds up.

[insaNe]

Not sure why you folks all have such a huge problem with smurfs.

No smurfs, no mc, no bw units, no multiple accounts, no rvr, no race picking. I think it can be summed up as "no discomfort". You people seem to want the least amount of resistance possible to achieving B and C rank. Can't see another reasonable explanation for wanting to control so badly the way people play this game.

If Jose and Mandingo shit on everyone enough to have multiple accounts in the top 10, then they are twice (or however many accounts they have) as deserving of a chance to win SCW prize money as anyone else.

Any invitational can have whatever specifications and it seems fine, but it just seems that the league itself should be as fundamentally 'open' as possible.

[Think-Fast]

The fact is that if you have several accounts from the same players in the top ten, then its rly not a "top 10 gamers" tournament. Its more like a top 7 or 8. I agree that all that hard work shouldn't go to waste but the top 10 tournament should be top ten different gamers.  The gamers that have multiple accounts in the top ten still get a top ten finish in the seasonal rankings alongside their top ten tournament games.

[insaNe]

The fact is that if you have several accounts from the same players in the top ten, then its rly not a "top 10 gamers" tournament. Its more like a top 7 or 8. I agree that all that hard work shouldn't go to waste but the top 10 tournament should be top ten different gamers.  The gamers that have multiple accounts in the top ten still get a top ten finish in the seasonal rankings alongside their top ten tournament games.

Might be kind of cool to implement something similar to 'home court advantage' in sports. Like if a user has multiple accounts in the top 10, they're allowed to pick 1 matchup per series vs anyone who only has 1. That way you could reward the nerds like Jose and Mandingo without alienating 14th place "A players" like SaDiStiC)DiaBlO.

[Newbport]

@ insane

That is a good idea, maybe something like it could be implemented into upcoming seasons.

[scan1014]

agreed, if you want a more diverse tournament multiple accounts should not be allowed. The argument that multiple accounts brings activity is kind of overused. For example, the player could play just as many games on their one account. If you want a more competitive tournament, make it one account per person.
It's like saying, "lets put Flash into two brackets into ASL because he plays more than others." Not much justification

ASL is an invitational tournament, and SCW is a league. The tournament that Newbport is putting on is based off of the results of the SCW League, not an invitational of the best players. It's not a reasonable comparison.

And as for playing just as many games on their one account, it gets to a point where you need to have a secondary account or you'll be in A vs C- & B vs D situations a lot of the time. It's not conducive to the success of the higher ranking player to accept this challenge, and why should it be?

The notion that the argument is overused is a baseless claim and can be discarded.

So at this point the only points are that you want to see more players regardless of the fact they didn't earn a top 10 spot, and that somehow having B players vs S players is going to create more competition. Not sure it adds up.

ASL is not an invitational tournament... You register, check in offline qualifiers and win from there = you advance to ASL stage.

[insaNe]

ASL is not an invitational tournament... You register, check in offline qualifiers and win from there = you advance to ASL stage.

I see. The information I was referencing was just for the Main Event. Thanks for the clarification.

That said, it's still not a similar format to how SCW works and therefor not an apt comparison.

[RJBTV]

ASL is not an invitational tournament... You register, check in offline qualifiers and win from there = you advance to ASL stage.

I see. The information I was referencing was just for the Main Event. Thanks for the clarification.

That said, it's still not a similar format to how SCW works and therefor not an apt comparison.

Top 4 of previous ASL get "invited" into the next one iirc.