It's comical how a simple format change on a dying game can completely flip some people's lives upside down.

I feel some of you have lost your perspective on life. This is ridiculous.

You can disagree with my point of view that's fine, we are all entitled to our opinions.

You don't have to use derogatory terms such as 'idiot' or 'moronic' to get your point across, let's be adults here.

I still disagree that predetermined will make things more imbalanced, it hasn't been tried yet.

If my idea is so flawed why does the current #1 ranked player agree with my format? I'm sure he has sufficient knowledge of the game.

In the end though if Sword or the community wants it RvR, it will be that.

All of this is speculation.

None of us actually know what will happen with the predetermined M/U's as it has never been done before. It's almost impossible to predict the future.

I agree that the map is one of the biggest flaws but M/U's are a bigger flaw.

Protoss will always have the advantage, even when mid with the other player above them. I've seen countless games of top players winning as mid P with their opponent above them.

Temp drops are the biggest flaw of FMP.

Like I said I will let the community decide what they think is most fair.


And @ Robotik

I like the idea, you will have to be more specific in explaining it though if it's to be taken seriously.

I agree with the multiple account thing, league activity is the end game goal here. I was just unsure of how to go about running the brackets. I will probably adopt kons idea of using the top 6,7,etc. If someone has multiple accounts.

If anyone has a better idea of how to go about dealing with  multiple top accounts let me know.

I agree determining the format for the tournament needs to happen as fast as it can. The tournament is a little less than a month away. I want to see more people's perspectives first before making any decisions.

I like the multiple account idea, if that happens a top 6 or top 7 will be used.



I definitely see your point Kon but still I respectfully disagree.


For your PvZ argument. Fast tech doesn't automatically win a game vs zerg, it can absolutely be countered. I've seen many games where the P goes fast drops and get's countered by early hydras and or lings. Anything can be countered.


I feel basically any advantage a player has in a certain M/U the other player also has. For the TvZ bunk rush fast gas M/U advantage, the zerg also has that same advantage; knowing their opponents race, they will then be able to counter. It's not like one player knows their opponents race while the other doesn't.

And this is nothing like the NFL or the NBA. These sports are almost completely balanced during the regular and post season. There is a reason during the playoffs (in the NBA) the teams switch courts after a certain number of games, to remove any home court advantage one team may have.

Sithlord was frowned upon because he picked the most OP race every game, and he is bitch made. If someone picked Zerg every game I don't think many would be complaining, also both players are picking giving each a chance to consider any advantages of the M/U.

Low money players play specialize in one race. The match ups I have listed include all races, I don't see any advantages here for low money players.

In last seasons tournament the winner got protoss 11/14 games, and RvR is fair? Anyone who knows the FMP game style knows Protoss is by far the most broken race and even more broken when played by a top level gamer.

In the winner's semi finals series his opponent who is a good player and who put a lot of time into the season got Mid z every single game and lost 0-4. This was one of the most unfair things I have ever seen. I would rather have a spot disadvantage for a game than to get mid ZvP four games in a row.

And upon watching the replays of last season's tournament multiple players complained about bad M/U's.
I agree, they were.

I still feel pre determined M/U's is the fairest route to go. I mean getting P 11/14 games is fucking ridiculous, it's not starcraft.

In the end I just want to see the fairest competition possible. We will let the community decide, maybe taking a poll for just those competing is the route to go.

That is true, the league has always been played RvR.

It just pains me to see players get unfavorable M/U's in their series, it leaves them without a fair chance of winning after all the time and effort they put into the league.

I think the only way to solve this is to ask the community.
If the community votes for RvR then RvR it will be, and vice versa.

In the end I just want to see the fairest competition possible.

A poll has been posted, if you're reading this please vote!

Thanks.

@ Dryfly

I definitely see your point and respectfully disagree.

The great aspect of this game is that any strategy can be countered.
A protoss going fast tech can be countered.
A choking terran can also be countered.
Everything can be countered with enough game sense and APM.

I don't see the point in a player putting in the time to play 200+ games just to get Mid ZvP 4 games in a row, that's not starcraft. Anyone who has played this game knows having a mid spot vs a high level player is an absolute disadvantage, there is no argument. 

Also, there are always M/U complaints at the end of tournaments. I seek to have none of these.

@ AI.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

So for the 7th game in either the quarter or semi finals you want the M/U to be either PvP, TvT or ZvZ?

How would the M/U be decided?