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Title: Broken map
Post by: TealSilverSteal on August 01, 2024, 03:37:16 pm
The map is broken, i have over 60 probes on minerals and im still broke.... 8 gas and still no gas.
For every season that goes, theres always coming new glitches.
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: TealSilverSteal on August 01, 2024, 05:37:21 pm
Btw dont let fainer make anymore shitty uppdates, the korean map is way better. Than this crap.
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: FaINeR on August 01, 2024, 06:26:21 pm
It's funny how people don't understand why they get poorer and then don't reach the resources they want to reach and they wonder why haha. With the Korean map the same thing would happen, there are 50 ore clusters on both maps.
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Ridd1cK[DFWM] on August 01, 2024, 07:22:46 pm
It's funny how people don't understand why they get poorer and then don't reach the resources they want to reach and they wonder why haha. With the Korean map the same thing would happen, there are 50 ore clusters on both maps.
you said before it was 60, now its 50. 

can you make it where you can put 100scvs or no cap?

I mean really there shouldn’t be a cap on how many you can put on a mineral patch.

It just makes losing your main that more of a disadvantage. 
My suggestion is going back to the map of scw1 and not changing anything.

Can we try 100 ore clusters so it’s r choice if we want to only make 30-50 scvs to run off of
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: TealSilverSteal on August 02, 2024, 01:59:05 am
I dont understand why you have to make any uppdates at all, all of a sudden units go back even if you attack in the middle of the map. im not playing that noob map anymore. Koreanmap seems to be better.
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: FaINeR on August 02, 2024, 08:17:19 am

Don't lie, I said 50. And it has always been 50 since vgt scd and also the Korean map for a reason. You can put 50 in the mineral and 30 in the gas. Dano there is the Korean map you can download it and find someone to play. There are no modifications to the space map. Dano ggs vs Gus was a surprise
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Itachi on August 02, 2024, 09:32:47 am
I didn't know this either, Kokanee explained it to me in 2020 when I first met him and he told me that it's a mistake that many people make. 50-60 is ok in mineral never 100.
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: TealSilverSteal on August 02, 2024, 10:19:54 am
Iam sure that everyone who has played this game for atleast 2 years in a row, knows exactly how the minerals are working. Dont try to tell me otherwise. If alot of players has complained about that the minerals/gas is low even with max workers. Something is really wrong.....

I know iam not playing on this broken map anymore. ill rather play the korean map.
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Prolific on August 02, 2024, 11:15:46 am
Just so you guys know... Dano refused to face me on the regular map lol.... its too "broken" for him to win but i never have a problem (1v1 normal map anytime dano lol). So we agreed to play on korean which i didnt realise the games were for scw since i didnt know the map was even accepted. I have not worked any build orders on this map and dont know how to setup a base on it yet. So congrats Dano you reported non league gasmes for scw and beat someone who doesnt play korean map... well played dano rofl
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Prolific on August 02, 2024, 11:36:07 am
I will admit you are alot smoother player on that map but ill have to play seriously next time since i know you know how to play now
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: RoNin on August 02, 2024, 11:56:48 am
The map has been broken forever. Scvs and probes start running around bases just to mine gas. As soon as somebody triples early in a corner the other play gets broke. Stupid ass map. Happens in 1s and 2s. Bottom left iam always broke even with 60 probes on minerals. Fainer is corrupt player this is why he builds like a pc. He knows all the flaws with the map.
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Prolific on August 02, 2024, 12:30:05 pm
The map has been broken forever. Scvs and probes start running around bases just to mine gas. As soon as somebody triples early in a corner the other play gets broke. Stupid ass map. Happens in 1s and 2s. Bottom left iam always broke even with 60 probes on minerals. Fainer is corrupt player this is why he builds like a pc. He knows all the flaws with the map.
Yea fainer has always been corrupted, remember me having rank A+ when fainer waited for me to reach rank he then suddenly reported all his wins at once giving him a massive points boost..... he does this crap on purpose
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: TealSilverSteal on August 02, 2024, 01:09:25 pm
gus, you little shit...  i gave you that game due to going fast cars at 11 min, if i still massed ground units+drops, youd be dead in 15 minutes. -_-
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Prolific on August 02, 2024, 01:17:49 pm
;;
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: TealSilverSteal on August 02, 2024, 02:10:22 pm
Dont dodge Gus, 7-2 still -_-
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Ridd1cK[DFWM] on August 02, 2024, 02:22:21 pm
I didn't know this either, Kokanee explained it to me in 2020 when I first met him and he told me that it's a mistake that many people make. 50-60 is ok in mineral never 100.




I was taught by David (Dawei)that you have 4 sets (48) and you add 1 set if your getting dropped (60) to get your minerals good if your being dropped.  Also you kill off 24 and max after you run with 60 for a while.


Fainers saying no, none of that’s true. Your only adding 2 more (50 is the cap) the other 10 sit around and don’t mine. I know this not to be true, I’ve seen this work before


I threw out the number 100 because it shouldn’t matter, we should be able to put as much as we want.


I vote for 100 mineral patches on each spot so the player gets to choose

Also scw map the gas is fucked up compared to old scd maps, the old scd maps the creep is different and I can line up my pool on the top side where I put my den and evo at.  You moved the shit around

#FreeMineralPatch
#SCDmap
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: FaINeR on August 02, 2024, 03:22:24 pm
The gas thing is true, it happens with scvs and probes sometimes, but only if you put 2 workers on the same gas, they won't make any extra turns. And if you put 3-4, sometimes it goes crazy and makes an extra turn. If you look at the Korean map, there is a greater distance from the central to the commander and the gases are separated, so there will be less bugs. But the stuck gas thing, where the scv stays dancing when the refinery finishes, happens a lot on the Korean map, that's luck that the scv is out when it's about to build the refinery.

More lies from riddick, the scd and vgt maps, the pool has never been built above the gas, it's always been below, surely riddick is confusing it with a different version that they made only once in scd or I don't know where they put it the other way around.

If they have 60 probes. Only 50 probes will mine at the same time, then the other 10 probes can grab the ore when the other one finishes collecting. In theory, the 60 probes will work alone, there will always be 10 waiting and grab it immediately when one finishes. I don't know if it saves microseconds.

I've never been corrupt like most of you have xD.

The ideal is 50 ore and 30 in gas.

Voting for 100 ore patches, which has never been like this. The map is as it is in vgt scd is the same. Starcraft is a game full of bugs. It's not like sc2 where every order does it.

For example, rally points sometimes don't work and you have to do it again, and frozen units you have to press stop so they move again, or order them to attack and if they see a jam they turn back, and there are more reaver bugs. That's why in starcraft you have to be more careful and have everything under control with many clicks.
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: TealSilverSteal on August 02, 2024, 05:51:19 pm
Fainer, stop touching the map okey? the more you do. The worse it gets..... you are not a mastermind. Let the map be as it was in vgt..... every uppdate you have done, it gets worse. Admin, ban fainer for being a noob at map-making.
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: FaINeR on August 02, 2024, 06:06:49 pm
I will explain you dano noob you are a  slow player , send probe late to mine after get 20k you kill many probes,   and only mining 20 probes and 5 gas and you constantly macro and atttack  so you waste all the 20 k durin making probes until 60 again but you wasting constantly  and you complaint for be poor, jajajajajaja

I haven't modified the map for a long time.    Dano go korean map xD
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Ridd1cK[DFWM] on August 02, 2024, 06:55:31 pm
I will explain you dano noob you are a  slow player , send probe late to mine after get 20k you kill many probes,   and only mining 20 probes and 5 gas and you constantly macro and atttack  so you waste all the 20 k durin making probes until 60 again but you wasting constantly  and you complaint for be poor, jajajajajaja

I haven't modified the map for a long time.    Dano go korean map xD
can we try out a map with more mineral patches just to test it.  right now the minerals r junk and everyone agrees.   i have a scd 14 map that the creep does go there. the gas has been fucked with over time
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Dreadlord Proletius on August 02, 2024, 09:05:39 pm
have you guys even tested this? I will finally reveal the secret to my superior mineral macro. The optimum number is 45-48.
Mining happens fastest at 45 and very slightly slower starting at 50. You might think all 50 probes can mine at a time but this is not true.
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Ridd1cK[DFWM] on August 02, 2024, 10:30:16 pm
have you guys even tested this? I will finally reveal the secret to my superior mineral macro. The optimum number is 45-48.
Mining happens fastest at 45 and very slightly slower starting at 50. You might think all 50 probes can mine at a time but this is not true.




Do you even play StarCraft
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: TealSilverSteal on August 03, 2024, 11:55:13 am
HAha, Riddick. Golden comment.
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Ridd1cK[DFWM] on August 03, 2024, 12:58:32 pm
Also, fainer, I think your theory is incorrect because you also have to think about the time it takes the probes to turn and hand the minerals to the main. On low money you make more to make up for the trip they take. 

If 50 was the max of mineral patches then 60 or more should be the optimal amount.


It’s simple when you think about it, if you only have 50 on your minerals, every second you’re not going to have 50 mining mineral's, it will fluctuate because they’re handing the minerals to the Main, even though it’s only taking them like half of a second to do that.

I think you make up this “50 and no more” to cover the fact the map is trash and needs thrown away and remade by ronin/tom

I think the map is just broken like a lot of other players do.

Even if it is .2 of a second that it takes for the prob to hand the minerals to the main then start mining again there would be loss mining time if you only have 50 for 50 mineral patches.

Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: FaINeR on August 03, 2024, 01:40:46 pm
It's useless against the only one who complains, Riddick, Ronin and now Dano. Superior players know more about resource optimization and know what to do. Sorry, but you lack more knowledge. For your information, I put the scw1 map, which is the same as vgt, I only changed the name scw 46. They are the same maps. You need to learn more.

60 or more probes is fine for the drops. but after better optimizacion 45-50 probes.   I tested long ago  60 probes vs 50 probes , in 5 minutes same amount i think won 60 probe for 100 mineral.  is nothing for 5 minutes

Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: tonyG on August 03, 2024, 03:46:05 pm
fainer reporting late and rigging map like usual smh. i think he is dingo/jose step brother
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Prolific on August 03, 2024, 04:09:20 pm
I mean there is problems with the map but come on.... you guys are making excuses for your losses and blaming it on the map when the truly talented players barely have a problem with that sort of thing just saying
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Prolific on August 03, 2024, 04:10:15 pm
hydra 51-8 on the map, seems he isnt having a problem with "no minerals and being broke" like the "gosu" dano LOL
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: RoNin on August 03, 2024, 04:21:44 pm
They don’t complain about it cause they benefit from it simple as that. Gus I fuck u in ass on daily basis with/without minerals
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Prolific on August 03, 2024, 04:32:19 pm
Maybe when im rusty and transitioning builds ronin. youre never gonna beat me again now
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Ridd1cK[DFWM] on August 03, 2024, 04:43:41 pm
Fainer if we did a poll to see how many ppl thought your map was broken it would be A LOT more than just 3 people that you named.
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Dreadlord Proletius on August 03, 2024, 05:08:15 pm
have you guys even tested this? I will finally reveal the secret to my superior mineral macro. The optimum number is 45-48.
Mining happens fastest at 45 and very slightly slower starting at 50. You might think all 50 probes can mine at a time but this is not true.




Do you even play StarCraft

do you? most of modern top level gameplay is based off my metagame developments
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: RoNin on August 03, 2024, 05:23:55 pm
Maybe when im rusty and transitioning builds ronin. youre never gonna beat me again now

Whatever
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: tonyG on August 03, 2024, 05:40:22 pm
ronin vs buu b07 - winner plays riddick - winner plays gosu dave
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Prolific on August 03, 2024, 07:23:42 pm
im down, winner gets 100? easiest cash ill ever make
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: RoNin on August 03, 2024, 07:46:11 pm
You’re not putting up 100$ buu let’s be real here..
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Prolific on August 03, 2024, 08:09:10 pm
do i smell a dodge? or is that ur fat ass
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: RoNin on August 03, 2024, 08:17:34 pm
I’ll play you bo7 with or without 100$ on the line
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Ridd1cK[DFWM] on August 03, 2024, 09:14:56 pm
ronin vs buu b07 - winner plays riddick - winner plays gosu dave




I’m good, how about you set up a good 1v1 match ppl wanna watch
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Prolific on August 03, 2024, 09:25:09 pm
ronin vs buu b07 - winner plays riddick - winner plays gosu dave




I’m good, how about you set up a good 1v1 match ppl wanna watch
how about me vs riddick? That'd be good ;; 10 minute 3-0
?
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Prolific on August 03, 2024, 09:28:05 pm
ill put 500 up vs joe! easy money
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Prolific on August 03, 2024, 09:31:48 pm
joe if u can get a choke up vs my p ill be impressed
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Ridd1cK[DFWM] on August 03, 2024, 10:12:43 pm
joe if u can get a choke up vs my p ill be impressed




Hahahaha hahaha haha,
that’s a lot of sandwiches you’ll have to make
You sure your good for 500$?


Let me know when subway boy
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: RoNin on August 03, 2024, 10:32:54 pm
Riddick back to talking shit about people’s personal lives and crying about when other talk about him.

Gus might make the sandwhiches but you deliver them stfu pussy
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Prolific on August 03, 2024, 10:53:58 pm
whatta joke lol. havent managed a subway in years but if thats supposed to hurt my feelings "ouch !""" lolol
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: RoNin on August 03, 2024, 11:22:07 pm
Practice what you preach bitch you have no room to talk about any bodies personal life and when you do I will be waiting in the wings to remind you how big of a bitch you really are
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Prolific on August 03, 2024, 11:26:36 pm
Ive got alot of expenses rn as far as rent and stuff but in like a month im down for some bet games
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: Ridd1cK[DFWM] on August 03, 2024, 11:32:58 pm
Ive got alot of expenses rn as far as rent and stuff but in like a month im down for some bet games
im gonna be on and off for the next 3 months, wont be on much at all. after that ill be down.
maybe do 50$ or something for bo5  (10$ games or something)
Title: Re: Broken map
Post by: RoNin on August 03, 2024, 11:50:59 pm
Blah blah blah leave me alone don’t bud in when I talk shit about people who don’t fight back blah blah blah I’m gonna tell sword and get you muted blahhhh blahhhh blahhhhh